The “warnings not to marry”

So over at VisaJourney, they wrote:

perhaps you should have taken everyone elses advice. i guess she was really in love with you and didnt care at all about the greencard:/


You aren’t taking in any of the advise given, but keep going back to statistics which have nothing to do with you.


You don’t know what you are doing. You were warned not to marry her. You don’t have a clue.


Exactly, you signed up for this even after everyone warned you not to marry her.


Why should anyone feel sorry for you? You didn’t get enough warnings not to marry?


The same people telling you to contest restraining order are same one who told u not to marry in 2014. Maybe, they smart and know things better than u.

(By the way, I don’t know that it was the same individuals giving both advice; the two threads mostly had different participants.) Also:

Bring an immigrant wife to US and expect her to go to work or start a business to support you while you no work is lack common sense. People warned you and you ignored them.


I see people tell u not to marry her.


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The thing is, the advice from 2014 didn’t really impart any red pill knowledge or wisdom. They said nothing about the alpha fuxx/beta buxx feminine imperative (which means that a girl is unlikely to stay with you just because she loves your personality, without you giving her money, unless you’re Chad), for instance, or how non-virgins tend to be more disloyal, or how there’s no such thing as relationship equity.

The nonexistence of relationship equity means that you need to have ongoing relevance

When men get criticized harshly on VisaJourney, it’s usually because they weren’t devoting themselves fully to putting a woman’s interests first, or they were demanding something in return for what they had done or, worse, what they had done in the past. At the very least, to get ANY respect from women, men need to have ongoing relevance — they need to be contributing something in the present. A woman’s interest in a non-Chad isn’t even about “what have you done for me lately”; it’s about “what are you going to do for me now and in the future?”

By the way, back in 2014 they weren’t really “warning me not to marry”

If you look at the posts, they were expressing some doubts, suggestions, etc. but they didn’t straight-up warn me not to marry. They were just saying there was some stuff to consider, and some possibilities that might be worth exploring.

How is the affidavit of support morally binding?

BuiQuang writes:

Also, as her husband, you are obligated morally and legally to support her. Giving her room and board and all her basic necessities was not generosity or holding up a deal. It’s your legal obligation. Also, I don’t know any couple who makes a deal for room and board. You have no idea what a marriage is. You only wanted to use this woman to be a breadwinner while you stay at home and not work as posted in posts from 2014.

Yeah, it may not have been clear enough from the thread that Meshelle said many, many times that she was okay with being the breadwinner. But it often happens that people make judgmental comments, based on erroneous assumptions, in relationship-related threads.

Anyway, if he’s talking about my moral obligation to do what I promised in the affidavit of support, what about all the money that the state took from me, which wasn’t pursuant to any agreement?

Also, if he’s talking about my obligation under natural law to provide for my wife, or saying that it’s the nature of marriage that men trade money for sex, what about the obligation of the woman to present herself as a virgin bride, or to stay with her husband; if we’re going to be traditionalist, aren’t I entitled to have such expectations, in return for making sure Meshelle’s needs were taken care of? Meshelle was, after all, being provided for, so as I told BuiQuang, my end of the “obligation” (both to Meshelle and to the government) was being upheld. Meshelle just left because she didn’t like living with my mom.

Yeah, I think there was an understanding between Meshelle and I that if she wanted to move up in the world and have a nicer place, she was potentially going to need to be the breadwinner because my income wasn’t guaranteed. VisaJourney may not have realized she was aware of the consequences of the felony, and what it would mean. The fact remains, though, that I did everything I was supposed to under both the Affidavit of Support and any other promise I made to Meshelle or her dad.

Of course, Meshelle could rip my family off now by filing a lawsuit, but people say she probably won’t. That’s not typically the Filipina way. She’ll probably just go away and live her life on her own, now that she has that divorce decree in hand. It does suck that, to get into this marriage, I got divorced from Augustine and therefore lost the rights of a widower; but whatever. Nobody cares.

It would’ve been nice if some of Augustine’s vids, etc. had survived, but oh well. Elsewhere:

You both used each other and you lost. Too bad, so sad for you. Obviously, you the victim. You did not plan to hold green card over her head to gain control. You the good guy.

Isn’t that why conditions on residency exist — so that the U.S. citizen spouse has some slight measure of control over whether he gets fucked over? Otherwise, what is the point? The whole idea is to make sure that the marriage isn’t fraudulent; e.g. they might look askance at the situation if, for example, she left as soon as she got her green card, and didn’t claim abuse.

But another question that arises is, why should ANY American man marry a foreign girl, and sign the Affidavit of Support, unless she’s a virginal bride? What assurance does he have that she’s not going to just leave him for another man, or whatever, once she has her green card, and fuck him over? Why WOULDN’T she; if she wasn’t virginal, then how was he in any way special to her? There was this other post:

No, marriage is not about using each other for our own desires. It’s love to share. Share require compromise. U think marriage about using each other then u will never be happy.

If marriage isn’t about a trade of money for sex, then why do wives insist on getting financial support in exchange for putting out, or else feel ripped off? Also, love is about a lack of other options. If she wasn’t a virginal bride, then how does she lack other options, given that there’s nothing particularly special to her about the man she married? These betabuxx marriages tend to be pretty mercenary from the female point of view; she is not loving her betabuxx the way she loved (and still loves) Chad.

Millennials have the prosecutorial mindset

If you’ve been criminally prosecuted before, you know how the typical prosecutorial mindset is. They’re all about punishing people and upholding respect for the law. Judges will sometimes talk more about the need to protect the public (since it’s their ass on the line if you reoffend and people notice the fact that they gave you a light sentence); but prosecutors are focused more on making sure you get your just deserts for what you did.

Prosecutors don’t directly feed any children, or invent any new devices, or anything like that. They just punish the bad people so that the common man doesn’t get the idea that crime pays. Prosecution is intended to keep people from having the audacity to challenge the state’s authority, by letting them know that there will be harsh punishments for violations. The prosecutors don’t necessarily care if they make anyone’s life better by removing the bad man from society; they just want to make sure that the bad man doesn’t get away with anything.

The prosecutor wants the public to view the punishments as just so that he’ll have respect for the law and the state; but of course, what’s “fair” is a matter of opinion, so really he’s just catering to the masses’s sentiments. If the people were to get demoralized, believing the law to be unfair, they might rise up or something. Of course, the people might get demoralized too by believing that the law is too harsh, and want to fight back for that reason; but prosecutors have that Machiavellian mindset that it’s better to be feared than loved, so therefore it’s better to err on the side of being too harsh than not harsh enough.

Modern feminism is influenced by the millennial idea that it doesn’t matter if women are miserable, as long as men aren’t able to feel entitled to women’s bodies. An abstract ideal has been put ahead of practicality and women’s actual well-being (which was supposed to be the point of feminism; feminism was supposed to be a system that worked better than patriarchy).

Feminism supposedly is a system that’s better-suited to our advanced, information-age economy than “archaic” patriarchy, which like negro slavery, is no longer necessary or useful. The difference, though, is that before, negroes were useful for physical labor, while now they’re useful for nothing; while before, women were only useful for sex and raising kids, and now they’re still only useful for that. Yet, feminism has made them useful for even less than what they were useful for during the patriarchal era. They’re not even able to keep their fertility rate above the replacement rate.

Well anyway, here’s James Lucrative’s video about the millennial mentality:

Notice I didn’t have that attitude toward Meshelle

For awhile, after she left, I had that Trumpian attitude of, “She has to go back.” That was one reason I didn’t want to sign off on the divorce. I was going to make it harder for her to remove her immigration conditions, or make it take a longer time, anyway.

But a more powerful motivator was that I simply didn’t want to let go of sexual property that easily. As it turned out, the police worked with her to force me to sign the final decree, under threat of getting prosecuted for rape.

Anyway, my attitude is that it’s usually better to be selfish than vindictive, although there are a few exceptions. If you’re going to be vindictive, you should at least make sure that your cause is worthy.

You know, the thing is,

I probably just wasn’t called to be a husband (unless I was going to actually implement Inclupedia and find a way to become rich off of it or something). I guess Meshelle has some animosity toward me because of the publicity from my campaign or whatever, but it seems to have been my calling, under the circumstances.

As for her, she probably was called to be a wife and mother, but society, and possibly her dad, fucked her over. Why was she set free to go get banged out by these Chads, rather than being married off in her early or mid teens by means of an arranged marriage?

Anyway, I got indirectly fucked over by those shortcomings in how society is set up right now. Shit just rolled downhill, that was all. Meshelle wasn’t even the prime instigator.

By the way, you gotta love these uninformative blog post titles, huh, which give no hint as to what the post is about?

So, I pretty much hate Meshelle at this point

I’ve reached that point in the divorce process where there’s a recognition that I have to cave in and give her the divorce; and now I can look at the whole marriage and recognize it was a loss rather than a profit. I didn’t come out ahead. And I hate her for breaking her promises. But, at the same time, I have to acknowledge that it was my responsibility to know better than to trust her (even though society mostly set me up for failure by bluepilling me about female nature).

She claims I fucked up her life. I don’t see how. She got her golden ticket to come to the U.S. and stay here, and all she had to do was stay with me for a year before she got to leave and do whatever she wanted. A lot of Filipinas would jump at the chance to spend one year with an American guy and then walk away with a green card. I guess she’s just not very appreciative, though.

Well, anyway. Let me tell you about what happened recently.

warrantThe cops executed a search warrant, and took my electronic stuff — my laptops, my tablet, my phone, my hard drives, my thumb drive. Everything that the burglars didn’t take on 18 July, they took on 29 August. And that really sucks, but my mom did at least buy me a new laptop the evening that it happened, so I’m back on the Internet.

I was also briefly locked out of my GMail and accounts, but I finally found the notebook that had my password written in it. It had fallen behind my bed, maybe when the cops were rifling through everything and throwing it various places. As searches go, that wasn’t the worst I’ve been through; there’ve been times when they ripped apart the whole place, but I think these guys may have shown some restraint because they weren’t looking for something like weed that would typically be kept hidden; since electronics aren’t inherently contraband (and if they do contain contraband, it’s usually encrypted), they’re usually out in the open, unless someone is expecting a search and seizure like this one.

zhhwgp7Anyway, after this happened, I realized, the local cops don’t have my back. They’re on Meshelle’s side. Why else would they be doing her bidding, by taking her rape allegations seriously?

So, to put an end to all this, I need to go ahead and sign off on the divorce so that she’ll leave me alone, and quit trying to bring the heat down on me. I hope she suffers some kind of freak Final Destination-like accident and dies, because I don’t like the fact that I invested so much in this relationship, only to have it end in this way. I guess I could look at it as a learning experience, but I don’t like what I had to give up in exchange for whatever wisdom I gained.

I know this much — she’s not going to be happy, but that’s not my fault. Her problems began before she ever met me. Kind of like how my problems began before I ever met her. The difference is, I left her in a better situation, because she didn’t really lose a lot from being with me for a year, yet now she’s going to have a U.S. passport, apparently. All that she’s really angry about is that she didn’t meet me when she was, say, 18, so she could have spent her late teens and early 20s in America.

It wouldn’t surprise me if she would even want to make the same decision to marry me, even knowing that we would be destined for divorce, if she had it to do over. Why not? She obviously wanted to come here very badly.

And that’s another thing — why am I, the U.S. citizen, being treated worse than the immigrant? I’m being given fewer rights than she is, because I don’t see the cops going through her stuff and taking her property. My family has lived in this county for 14 years and paid property taxes to this county, yet Meshelle gets favoritism because she wants to be disloyal to her husband and have some assistance from the cops in twisting my arm to let her go from the marriage. Okay, well, whatever.

I thought she didn’t believe in divorce. Anyway, I can’t see her life going in a good trajectory, because a lot of the same problems she ran into with me, she would run into with the next guy too. She just carries too much baggage from her failed relationships with these Chads. That isn’t going away, and she’s not getting any younger.

So yeah, I hope she gets hit by a Mack truck and splatters all over the pavement, or something; but if that doesn’t happen, either way, I still know she’s going to have a fucked-up life, and it serves her right. I would say, “I hope others will see that and learn from it” but I know they won’t. They’ll just blame it on me, which doesn’t really do any good.

After all, I was very open with Meshelle about how I am and what my expectations were, but she came here anyway just for the green card, if for nothing else. Because of the allure of the green card, we will just see these fiancee immigrants continue coming here regardless of the fact that the U.S. citizen fiances usually have some kind of problem that is making them resort to a foreign bride. They will never “learn,” because what there is to learn, they already know; they’re going into it with eyes wide open and taking advantage. It’s the U.S. citizen sponsors who need to learn, and quit enabling bad behavior.

Ah, it felt good to vent. (Just like last time.) Even though I know it won’t be of much interest to others, it’s good to express my feelings, just like last time. Of course, at this point, I have to totally suppress any and all positive feelings I might have about Meshelle, because those feelings are totally pointless, given that nothing good can come of them; all that can arise from being fond of her is frustration.

I wonder if her feelings toward me are totally dead? That was the impression I got when I saw her last. I’m not even sure if she hates me. Maybe all this really was just a mercenary transaction, in the end. I’m not even sure she even relied on me much for emotional support; it seemed like she used Facebook more for that.

The cool thing about dying, by the way, is that all my memories and emotions regarding Meshelle will be totally gone at that point. And I’m getting pretty close to what actuaries would consider the halfway point in my life now.

By the way, I also hate BuiQuang

Fuck that individual; I hope they die in a horrific accident too. Not necessarily a painful accident, but a messy one, like falling into some industrial machinery.

So, let’s talk about Meshelle

924103e3e5bde60af88d80c79f6c78edb3e31aadThere seems to be some myth circulating that I sought out a Filipina wife so I could dominate her.

If I were going to do that, I would not have picked a 26-year-old with a computer engineering degree who had careers as a realtor, mining negotiator, sales manager, etc. That’s not the kind of person who’s going to be as easy to control.

No, if the goal was to have the upper hand in the relationship, I would more likely have picked an uneducated 18-year-old Filipina from an impoverished family. That would have had a number of advantages. A younger girl would’ve carried less emotional baggage from previous relationships, probably would’ve had a tighter pussy, etc. I could’ve chosen her based on looks, lack of sexual experience, etc.

But I went for Meshelle because she made it sound like she could fulfill both the masculine and the feminine roles in the family, of being a breadwinner and wife and mother. She was the one who said she had no problem supporting the family and having 12 kids, if that’s what I wanted.

As it turned out, she had the same expectation that every woman has, that a man is going to support her, or at least contribute some money toward the household. And of course, as soon as I was out of work for half a year (I got canned from my job in October 2016, and she left in April 2017), she decided to separate.

She couldn’t just say that she was leaving for financial reasons, though. She had to accuse me of sexual abuse. Whatever. She doesn’t even have grounds to accuse me of that, really, because another of the promises she made before she got here was that she was okay with doing whatever I wanted her to do in bed, and that she was going to make herself sexually available to me whenever I wanted. Also, her father gave her to me; I don’t remember him saying anything about my not being allowed to fuck her however or whenever I wanted.

Of course, another thing people say is that I was a dumbass for believing her promises, when the law would allow her to just come over here and get her green card and then leave me, if she wanted to. So, the narrative people seem to have is that I intended to abuse her, but I was such a dumbass that instead I allowed her to use me instead. So they view me as both an abusive prick AND a chump. The public loves that type of character; it’s why Jay Leno was so fond of “stupid criminals” who botched their burglaries and whatnot. If someone has bad intent, then you can make fun of them all you want, and indulge in schadenfreude, without feeling guilty about it.

That’s about all I have to say about that. I’m not as strong a believer in the importance of girls’ personalities as I used to be, since their love is conditional and their behavior depends on the situations they’re put in. The way a girl acts when she’s trying to butter a guy up so that he’ll help her get a visa to come to America is different than how she acts when she has a green card in hand.

By the way, Meshelle is never going to be as successful in this country as, say, a Korean might be. The reason is that Filipinas are just inferior genetic stock compared to Koreans. All they ever had to offer is that they made good housewives, and now they don’t even have that, because they’re so stuck-up with all their education and inflated sense of self-importance (which they get from being popular on Facebook) that they think being a housewife is beneath them.

But they’re not actually going to be able to start businesses and do the other stuff that Koreans and other Asian immigrants do, because they just don’t have the kind of intellect that would enable them to do that. They’re smart in a certain kind of way, in that they can, say, figure out lots of ingenious ways to keep tabs on what their boyfriend or husband is up to, using the technology that’s available to them. But that’s about it.

Filipinas have also lost their traditional morality. They’re now getting to be just as slutty as western girls, because their fathers, and the culture, are allowing this. So they really don’t have a lot to offer. The only benefit is that if you’re, say, a 55-year-old guy, you can still find a Filipina in her 20s who will let you wife her up if you have enough money to give her a comfortable life. That’s about it.

Since western culture tends to be at a more advanced state of decay than Filipino culture at any given time, though, the Filipinas still have an advantage over American women, so I guess American men will continue wifing them up. 20 years from now, maybe Filipinas will be as bad as American women are today, but by that time, American women will probably have become even worse, so there will be still be a reason to wife up Filipinas instead.

It doesn’t even really matter. Filipinas can’t produce white kids, so marrying them is really a last resort for when you’ve already mostly given up on your genetic line and decided that non-white offspring are better than no offspring. Maybe in the future, 30-year-old Filipinas will insist on marrying only American men who are in their 30s, and then the Philippines truly will be pointless.

It may be, too, that in the future there will be a more globalized society where people can travel around visa-free. That will also create less of a need for May-December (or other non-looksmatched) Fil-west marriages. The whole marriage system is becoming obsolete anyway; it’s only relevant for stuff like taxes and health insurance, but as women enter the workforce in larger numbers (and thus have their own insurance), and as we end up universal health care systems, those will be less relevant factors.