Tom, holocaust21, etc. — have you seen Caamib anywhere?

Is he still alive and/or commenting on your blogs? I wanted to invite him to create an IncelsAndMaleSexualists forum (v2.0) with me. It could be a helpful fourth pillar of my empire. Thanks.

13 thoughts on “Tom, holocaust21, etc. — have you seen Caamib anywhere?

  1. I have no idea. Probably gave up. (Unlike me, by the way. I have only barely started.) But anyway, do you really need 4 different forums, most likely all inhabited by the same people? I’d imagine that coalescing is better than fracturing when it comes to such as small coterie of edgelords. Or perhaps you can branch out to wholly new audiences – e.g., NRx.

    There is a problem in that most incelospherians are either low IQ, uninterested in politics, or both of those things. To truly be edgy one has to be intelligent and knowledgeable, and I don’t really see that in the incelosphere. I guess Cancel is alright, and some Male Sexualists might also benefit by reading Moldbug, but for the most part there’s stupidity all around, which is boring.

    You should give Jim’s blog a try.

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  2. I mean, come on: the majority of incels are brown, primarily Pajeets. They’re not interesting. The movement needs many more whites (and I mean real whites: Britons, Germans, Beneluxians, Frenchmen, and Scandinavians), and possibly a few more BASED kikes. In other words, those capable of coming up with new ideas and writing them down in an articulate, intelligible manner.

    A street-shitter currycel movement — interspersed with some chongers, hapas, and mystery meat coons — will never get anywhere.

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  3. I thought you gave up repeatedly, but kept coming back. NRx is boring and low-energy, once you’ve finished reading Moldbug’s works. There’s not really a community based around it that’s doing anything. Anyway, caamib’s target audience probably would have been different from my other target audiences. But it would’ve given someone like Mainländer a place to hang out, where his writings on jailbaits could reach an audience of bloggers, and where he could interact with them.

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  4. I haven’t heard from Caamib for a while either… It’s a shame a lot of people give up, and yet the feminists never give up, even when they’ve won and enslaved the whole of society (like they have now). They just keep on going, trying to make sure that their 99.9999% hell of a society is 100% hell. Even the Devil himself wouldn’t go that far!

    Did you get anywhere with talking to Amos about starting something though?

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  5. Remember what Julian Heicklen said — you have to not give up. https://www.copblock.org/47691/julian-heicklen-interviewed-by-nathan-larson/

    No, Amos and I ran into problems because he knows nothing about incel subculture, yet I’m trying to build an empire that includes a lot of people from the incel community. Plus he wants to focus on platforms while I’m trying to put together an intersectional movement and align my forces in accordance with my grand strategy for total victory of the incelosphere.

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  6. You need to give Nick Land a try. Yes, it’s for IQ>140 types only, but you stand a chance. I think that the Vast Cold Outside is calling onto you… I mean, do you not want capitalist-AI to abolish the human race by way of a “mad” hyperstition? Pffffft. Of course you do. It’s time to stop looking inside-out and start looking: Outside-in.

    Mwahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

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  7. Ah, shame. I thought maybe at least the tech side could be shared. Amos could have his own forum, and you could have your forum. And they’d both be hosted by the same uncensorable means.

    I have been wondering if I should setup a Zeronet site myself, it might take a bit of work. You can even have proxy servers to point to the Zeronet site so people can view it from the internet (possibly they won’t be able to post from the normal internet though). For it to have a possibility of working though I’d have to lure good content creators like you or Amos to it.

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  8. Not many people are familiar with ZeroNet. I think actually the project only started in 2015, so in a way it’s quite new. The cool thing is it is a basically a distributed internet using bit torrent trackers. You create your site, you start seeding and provided other people have visited your site and they stay online then if you get arrested by a really big angry lesbian who then beats you to death in prison your site will persist. Or even if just a lowly antifa thug comes and steals your hard drive, then your site would also persist.

    But yeah, I get you & Amos are both leaders coming from different perspectives. I think you are both complementary though, and probably appeal to different people. But the result of a victory for either of you is similar: Less insane rape laws.

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  9. Also, a reminder that this board exists:

    https://8ch.net/mssm/catalog.html

    If there existed a Male Sexualist community, it would be gathering there to discuss stuff. Since there isn’t, and there are about at most 10 people involved, who disagree with each other about at least 80% of issues, the board is inactive.

    The incelosphere’s problem is a high noise-to-signal ratio: for every good post (mostly written by one Leucosticte), there are tons of shit-tier garbage posts that are a waste of time. And that’s because it’s a street-shitter movement full of autistic pajeets, ricecels, and high-yella coons who can’t even make eye-contact, not unlike the PUAsphere of 2010 or the Rooshosphere of 2015. You also have various Muslim LARPers who are, needless to say, misfits within their own communities. Also, Elliot Rodger was dumbass who should’ve escortcel’d instead of killing a bunch of 5/10s.

    This whole sub-culture lacks intellectual foundations. Contrast that with National Socialists, Socialists, Communists, Marxists, Anarchists, Anarcho-Socialists, Anarcho-Capitalists, Libertarians, Progressives, Monarchists, Feminists, Reactionaries, Fascists, and various other kooks, who all have rich libraries to draw inspiration from. Heartiste should’ve written a book or ten and it’s quite a shame he didn’t.

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  10. I think the incels problem is this:

    Given that you reject mainstream advice which is of the form “there’s always someone out there for you, just wait for them” and instead you take a more National Socialist viewpoint which is that “some people are subhuman” and, unlike normal National Socialist supporters who view another group as subhuman, Incel’s view themselves as subhuman. And once you view yourself as inescapably subhuman that is taking “the blackpill” and at that point there is only hopelessness, nihilism and despair. Incel’s then flail about blaming ideologies that might be responsible for their plight such as feminism or arguing that incel should be regarded as a disability and they should be given sex by the government to make them cope better etc.

    So really all this boils down to three possibilities:

    Feminism really is wholly or mostly responsible for the incel’s plight, and so an intellectual foundation “proving” this would give incels a valid intellectual foundation.
    Some people are simply “subhuman” and so will never have a relationship and so as there’s no positive action to be taken, there can be no meaningful intellectual foundation for them.
    There’s a sort of halfway house of society viewing incel’s as “disabled” and giving them special assistance. There’s precedence for this in left-wing ideology where disabled people are given extra help. So incels could also get this. But the trouble is its still not really positive for them or for society.

    So if someone can provide the intellectual foundations that prove 1. and disprove 2. then Incels can be united as a force against Feminism. Otherwise if you end up either not being certain or proving that 2. is in fact true then you end up with a problem. Maybe you can find a way to make 3. work but I’m not so sure. As it currently is, incels are flailing about with all three of those possibilities and not really knowing which one is the right path.

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  11. Fucking wordpress. just after I said “three possibilities” each line should have been labelled with a 1, 2 and 3 but it deleted them. So if I may try again it should have read:

    1) Feminism really is wholly or mostly responsible for the incel’s plight, and so an intellectual foundation “proving” this would give incels a valid intellectual foundation.
    2) Some people are simply “subhuman” and so will never have a relationship and so as there’s no positive action to be taken, there can be no meaningful intellectual foundation for them.
    3) There’s a sort of halfway house of society viewing incel’s as “disabled” and giving them special assistance. There’s precedence for this in left-wing ideology where disabled people are given extra help. So incels could also get this. But the trouble is its still not really positive for them or for society.

    Feel free to delete this comment Nathan and edit my last post to add in the correct numbering.

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